Nordic Vintage
Challenge Rules
Ver. 32
Last updated 22. December 2023 by LJ and SHY
Classes: 2WD, 4WD, Classic 2WD, Classic 4WD, Plastic Fantastic, Racing Truck
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2WD:
Models limited to production year 1994 and earlier. This is the starting point. See also exceptions and the NVC Car Menu.
No minimum weight.
Brushless motor limited to 17.5 turn.
Brushed motor limited to 19 turn.
ESC must be set to Forward/Brake only, no reverse. Other ESC settings are free (boost, timing etc).
Batteries limited to 2S LiPo or 6 cells NiMH. Also limited to 8.4
volts before a run (For LiPo the charger must be set to cut charge at
4.2 volt pr cell). We recommend not using the Hi-Voltage LiPos.
Allowed front tires Alt. 1: Schumacher Cut Stagger LP (recommended indoors and especially outdoors), yellow compound, with no inserts
(U6770). Or pre-glued on wheels with 12mm hex: U6801.
Allowed front tires Alt. 2: Schumacher Fusion Slim (recommended indoors and especially outdoors), yellow compound, with no inserts
(U6901). Or pre-glued on wheels with 12mm hex: U6904.
Allowed rear tires Alt. 1: Schumacher Mini Pin (recommended outdoors), yellow compound (U6817 or old part no. U6608), Schumacher
medium blue inserts (U6747 or U6734). Or pre-glued on wheels with 12mm hex: U6792. These are now discontinoued as to production, but they've kept the part number for the new Mini Pin Version 1. Which are legal. Pre-glued on wheels with 12mm hex: U6818.
Allowed rear tires Alt. 2 (recommended indoors): Schumacher Cactus, yellow compound (U6838),
Schumacher medium blue inserts (U6747 or U6734). Or pre-glued on wheels with
12mm hex: U6839.
The "tubby" inserts U6747 are best suited for Mini Pin whilst the smaller inserts U6734 are best suited for Cactus.
Maximum total width is 250 mm.
Examples of cars: AE RC10 Worlds, Schumacher Topcat (standing front dampers), Schumacher Cougar 2000,
Fabiix 2000, Kyosho Turbo Ultima, Kyosho Ultima II, Traxxas TRX-1, Team Losi
JrX2, Team Losi XX.
A
special note as to the AE RC10 models: It must sport original arms or
"genuine" vintage arms like RPM, Andy's etc. Or reproductions of these.
Modern 3D printed arms from 3DRC or similar which are wider and give a
longer wheelbase are not legal.
Exception 1: Team Associated B2 is legal.
4WD:
Models limited to production year 1997 and earlier. This is the starting point. See also exceptions and the NVC Car Menu.
No minimum weight.
Brushless motor limited to 13.5 turn.
Brushed motor limited to 19 turn.
ESC must be set to Forward/Brake only, no reverse. Other ESC settings are free (boost, timing etc).
Batteries limited to 2S LiPo or 6 cells NiMH. Also limited to 8.4 volts before a run (For LiPo the charger must be set to cut charge at 4.2 volt pr cell). We recommend not using the Hi-Voltage LiPos.
Allowed front tires Alt 1: Schumacher Wide Stagger Rib (recommended), yellow compound (U6810), Schumacher medium blue inserts (U6746, U6738 or U6733). Or pre-glued on wheels with 12mm hex: U6812.
Allowed front tires Alt 2: Schumacher Mini Pin 4WD front, yellow compound (U6607),
Schumacher medium blue inserts (U6746, U6738 or U6733).
Allowed front tires Alt 3: Schumacher Cactus 4WD front, yellow compound
(U6840), Schumacher medium blue inserts (U6746, U6738 or U6733). Or pre-glued on wheels
with 12mm hex: U6841.
Allowed front tires Alt 4: Schumacher Cactus Fusion "1" 4WD front, yellow compound
(U6855), Schumacher medium blue inserts (U6746, U6738 or U6733). Or pre-glued on wheels
with 12mm hex: U6856.
Allowed front tires Alt 5: Schumacher Cactus Fusion "2" 4WD front, yellow compound
(U6895), Schumacher medium blue inserts (U6746, U6738 or U6733). Or pre-glued on wheels
with 12mm hex: U6898.
Allowed rear tires Alt. 1: Schumacher Mini Pin (recommended outdoors), yellow compound (U6817 or old part no. U6608), Schumacher
medium blue inserts (U6747 or U6734). Or pre-glued on wheels with 12mm hex: U6792. These are now discontinoued as to production, but they've kept the part number for the new Mini Pin Version 1. Which are legal. Pre-glued on wheels with 12mm hex: U6818.
Allowed
rear tires Alt. 2 (recommended indoors): Schumacher Cactus, yellow compound (U6838),
Schumacher medium blue inserts (U6747 or U6734). Or pre-glued on wheels with
12mm hex: U6839.
The "tubby" inserts U6747 are best suited for Mini Pin whilst the smaller inserts U6734 are best suited for Cactus.
Maximum total width is 250 mm.
Examples of cars: Team Losi XX4, Tamiya Top Force, Tamiya Manta Ray, Schumacher ProCAT, Schumacher
CAT2000, Kyosho Lazer ZX-R, Yokomo YZ10 870C, Yokomo Works'93,
Tenth Technology Predator.
Classic 2WD:
Models limited to production year 1987 and earlier. This is the starting point. See also exceptions and the NVC Car Menu.
No minimum weight.
Brushless motor limited to 17.5 turn.
Brushed motor limited to 19 turn.
ESC must be set to Forward/Brake only, no reverse. Other ESC settings are free (boost, timing etc).
Batteries limited to 2S LiPo or 6 cells NiMH. Also limited to 8.4 volts before a run (For LiPo the charger must be set to cut charge at 4.2 volt pr cell). We recommend not using the Hi-Voltage LiPos.
Tires: If the car is fitted with 2.2 wheels then it must follow the tire regulations
for the 2WD class.
If using smaller wheels than 2.2 any spiked or grooved rubber tires can be used.
Slick tires and foam tires are not allowed.
Maximum total width is 250 mm.
Examples of cars: AE RC10 first version,
Kyosho Tomahawk, Kyosho Scorpion, Kyosho Ultima, Tamiya SRB, Tamiya Fox, Tamiya
Striker, CRP Super Buggy, SG Coyote 2WD.
A special note as to the RC10 first version (or the re-release "RC10 Classic"): It must sport the original short front A-arms (long front
arms were introduced in 1989). You are however allowed to use other shocks/springs if you like.
Exception 1: Tamiya Grasshopper II, Hornet and Super Hornet are allowed in the
Classic class as they are all based on the Grasshopper chassis.
Exception 2: Tamiya Sonic Fighter is allowed.
Exception 3: All MRC, SG, Marui, Nichimo, Yankee, PB and Hirobo models are allowed
no matter what year they were produced (but they must have 2WD only).
Exception 4: Team Losi JrX2 is not allowed in 2WD Classic.
Exception
5: Ultima 87, Turbo Ultima and Ultima Pro are allowed. Also a Joel
Johnson Worlds'87 replica. The Ultima Pro XL (with longer arms) is not
legal in Classic.
Exception 6: Schumacher Top Cat (original and rere) is allowed. But it MUST use the laydown front suspension.
Classic 4WD:
Models limited to production year 1987 and earlier. Including truck conversion kits. This is the starting point. See also exceptions and the NVC Car Menu.
No minimum weight.
Brushless motor limited to 13.5 turn.
Brushed motor limited to 19 turn.
ESC must be set to Forward/Brake only, no reverse. Other ESC settings are free (boost, timing etc).
Batteries limited to 2S LiPo or 6 cells NiMH. Also limited to 8.4 volts before a run (For LiPo the charger must be set to cut charge at 4.2 volt pr cell). We recommend not using the Hi-Voltage LiPos.
Tires: If the car is fitted with 2.2 wheels then it must follow the tire regulations
for the 4WD class. U6609, Schumacher Mini Pin, yellow compound, slim is also
allowed for front tires.
If using smaller wheels than 2.2 any spiked or grooved rubber tires can be used.
Slick tires and foam tires are not allowed.
Maximum total width is 250 mm.
Examples of cars: Kyosho Turbo Optima, Kyosho Progress 4WDS, Tamiya Hotshot,
Yokomo YZ10 834B, Schumacher CAT XL and XLS, SG Coyote 4WD.
Exception 1: Tamiya Hotshot II, Supershot, BigWig, Boomerang, Thundershot, Firedragon,
Super Sabre are allowed in the Classic class as they are all basically the same
chassis as the original Hotshot (with 4 damper kit).
Excepton 2: Tamiya Avante (both versions) are allowed. Tamiya Egress (also Jamie Booth replica)
and Vanquish are also allowed.
Exception 3: All MRC, SG, Marui, Nichimo, Yankee, PB, Hirobo and Mugen models are allowed
no matter what year they were produced.
Exception 4: Kyosho Optima MID is legal in Classic 4WD. All versions including rerelease.
Exception 5: Yokomo YZ10 870C is not legal in Classic 4WD.
Racing Truck:
Models limited to production year 1994 and earlier. This is the starting point. See also the NVC Car Menu for inspiration.
The bodyshells must also be from 1994 or earlier (or reproductions of these).
2WD and rear wheel drive only.
No minimum weight.
Brushless motor: No limit
Brushed motor: No limit
ESC must be set to Forward/Brake only, no reverse. Other ESC settings are free (boost, timing etc).
Batteries limited to 2S LiPo or 6 cells NiMH. Also limited to 8.4 volts before a run (For LiPo the charger must be set to cut charge at 4.2 volt pr cell). We recommend not using the Hi-Voltage LiPos.
Tires: Free / no rules. But tire additives are not allowed.
Examples
of cars: Team Associated RC10T, Team Losi XX-T, Tamiya Stadium Thunder,
Tamiya Dyna Blaster, Tamiya Blitzer Beetle, Kyosho Ultima Outlaw,
Kyosho Pro-XT
Exceptions: Schumacher Club 10 MK 2 Storm Truck from 1995 is allowed.
A note on motors:
Any motor with a higher turn can also be used (for example 20 turn, 21 turn
and so on for Classic). Which means a Tamiya Sport Tuned, Mabuchi 540, Mabushi
380 etc is also allowed.
About re-releases (all classes except Plastic Fantastic):
Re-releases / reissues of cars are legal, in all classes. Just be sure that
the re-release doesn't have a modern chassis like the Sand Rover and Holiday
Buggy. They come with a DT-02 chassis which is not allowed. The basic idea is
to race cars that look and handle like they originally did. We have been very
flexible as to release dates for Tamiya models, this is because they tend to
use the basic platform for a very long time. There's seldom a competitive advantage
to choosing a Tamiya model. And lastly they look very good on track and have
a lot of personality.
2WD vs 4WD precisions:
You are of course welcome to race a 2WD Classic car in both the 2WD Classic
and 2WD class. And vice versa a 4WD Classic in both 4WD Classic and 4WD.
In the 4WD classes all cars must have drive on all four wheels (meaning it's
not allowed to run a 2WD in the 4WD class). You can however use an original
4WD car in the 2WD class if you remove drive on two of the wheels. 2WDs can
have front or rear wheel drive.
Rules regarding modifications (all classes except Plastic Fantastic):
Modifications are fine provided that the custom parts keep the original shape.
Approved modifications could be copies of an original chassis but in carbon
fiber, upgraded gears, other belts, and also repro parts and bodies.
It
is legal to swap parts with cars from the same time period. It is also
legal to do small changes in geometry in order to make the cars more
driveable. Just keep it within reason.
Option parts that were on the market (commercially available) back in the day are also allowed. For instance
a mid motor conversion kit for 2WD or a MIP 4WD conversion kit for the RC10.
Also prototype option parts that were in use on team cars. Reproductions or
copies of such parts and kits are also allowed (for instance NIX91, which is a Worlds'91 replica).
It may be a good idea to ask the organizer before you do a big modification
or conversion as to if it's seen as legal or not.
IMPORTANT!
IT IS NOT LEGAL TO EXTEND THE CAR'S WHEELBASE UNLESS THERE WAS A MASS
PRODUCED AND COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE OPTION CHASSIS AVAILABLE IN THAT
TIME PERIOD.
Replacing a locked axle with a differential is permitted. It is also allowed
to replace gear diffs with ball diffs.
Slipper clutches are allowed to add since many re-release kits come with this.
Plastic Fantastic DT-02:
ESC must be set to Forward/Brake only, no reverse.
Batteries limited to 2S LiPo or 6 cells NiMH. Also limited to 8.4 volts before a run (For LiPo the charger must be set to cut charge at 4.2 volt pr cell). We recommend not using the Hi-Voltage LiPos.
The chassis must be of type
DT-02
Allowed cars: Holiday Buggy, Sand Rover, Street Rover, Buggy Kumamon
Not allowed cars: Fighter Buggy SV, Super Fighter GR, Sand Viper, Super Fighter
GR, Neo Falcon, Desert Gator, Super Fighter G, 1/10 DT-02 MS, Nissan Titan
Allowed hop ups: 540 silver can motor (any version). Free pinion size. Ball bearing
kit 14pcs 5x11. Front oil dampers (50519). Rear oil dampers (50520). You can use the original
shock springs or the ones from the oil damper kits.
Allowed tires Alt 1: Original re-release tires for the Holiday Buggy, Sand Rover or
Street Rover. Cutting down
spikes are allowed (but not recommended as it gives less grip).
Allowed tires Alt 2: Tires used in the 2WD class.
Other modifications: This class is much about show and fun - so creative scale modifications
"just for show" (that don't improve handling) are allowed. Paint, livery, lights and so on. Modifications that improve handling
are not allowed (for instance adding a rear wing).
Race set-up 2WD, 2WD Classic, 4WD, 4WD Classic, Plastic Fantastic:
3 rounds of qualifying, 5 minutes each. Top 1 result counts.
3 rounds of finals, 5 minutes each. Top 2 results count.
Max 10 cars in each final. The final set up here may vary from race to race, it will depend on the number
of partiticpants.
We normally have 2 timed practise heats before qualifying.
Time schedule:
FRIDAY:
-Free practice
-Exhibition/meeting/swap (self service, not arranged by organizer)
SATURDAY:
-Classes: 4WD Classic, 4WD, Plastic Fantastic, Plastic Fantastic Endurance
-Drivers briefing
-Group photo
-Concours d'Elegance / Best In Show / Best Plastic Fantastic prize giving (or sunday)
-One timed practice round
-Reseeding based on the three fastest consecutive laps in practise
-3x qualifiers
-3x finals
-Prize giving
-Common dinner at night
SUNDAY:
-Classes: 2WD Classic, 2WD, Racing Truck
-Drivers briefing
-Group photo
-One timed practice round
-Reseeding based on the three fastest consecutive laps in practise
-3x qualifiers
-3x finals
-Prize giving
Transponders:
To be able to participate you need a personal transponder of the AMB/MyLaps
brand. All the red ones are supported. You might share transponder with somebody
as long as you don't run in the same heat, same class. You are all individually
responsible for having a transponder mounted and ready before your heat starts.
We will try to have hand out transponders as well. But it's preferred
that you own one. The hand out transponders have a footprint of 3,2 by
3,6 cm. And the height is 2,8 cm. They can also be mounted onto the
body or wing by reaming a hole and fastening with a body clip. Note!
The best ones are marked "A", the second best ones "B". They last fine
for one race day. They blink green when fully charged. They blink red
when they need to be charged. When they're empty there is no light at all and they will not count your laps.
Prizes:
Top qualifier (not PF)
Top 3 from the A final, winners of the sub finals
Concours d'Elegance Winner (best paint job)
Best In Show (Best "theme" - matching paint job/livery, clothes etc)
Best Plastic Fantastic
Fantastic Driving (for all kids)
Entry fee:
250 SEK/NOK for each class.
License:
You need a national race license (SBF, NMF, AKK, DASU) in order to participate,
this is due to insurance. First timers can get an educational license from SBF,
but this can only be done once.
For
norwegians you don't need a license to take part in a NVC race in
Norway. But if you're attenting a NVC race in Sweden you must have a
license. The cheapest option is the "fun" license. You must also be a
member of a norwegian club assosicated with NMF.
Where to buy tires?
Schumacher tires are sold online and in many stores.
Feedback
If you have any questions, feedback or input - please contact Svein Harald Ytternes.
Please do not post this on Facebook. Thank you! We really do
listen to suggestions and comments. We have tried to have open
discussion on web before, and it never ended well.
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